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Old Feb 17, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #161
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XD, they could be PvE items with consumable ammo that you can use for a first scatter fire before attacking, goes nice with Edge Extinction, XD.
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16   #162
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I know a FEW players who PREFER Knives over firearms in CoD4 & BF2
knives aren't swords :P an army guy realistically carries a knife for Close Quarter Combat but not a samurai sword. Halo 3 energy sword ftw!
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #163
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No guns, seriously, just no.
Next thing people are going to want lightsabers and other crap. Play a FPS if you want guns.
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01   #164
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No guns, seriously, just no.
Next thing people are going to want lightsabers and other crap. Play a FPS if you want guns.
Actually many people have asked for complete sets of skin themes with only some weapons.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Chaos_Axe
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Icy_Dragon_Sword
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Eternal_Blade

Quite light-like, XD.
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #165
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-CoD4 is ftw, if u want guns, go play it
-Halo3 is decent, play it if you don't have CoD
-Play GW when u get bored of guns
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #166
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This could be pretty good for the game. Grenado Espada has firearms which make a very good feature in the game. Idk about GW tho.

Oh n WoW has firearms also XD.
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16   #167
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Granado has firearms instead of bows.

The trick it's coexistence...
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38   #168
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Guild Wars has explosives, I'm sure they've come across a crude gun powder by now.
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43   #169
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I'll throw my 2 cents in here.

GW does have guns, siege turtle cannons, and lots of readily available explosive powders (powder keg). Imo handheld firearms are entirely possible within the lore of GW, however thing is handheld firearms are more than likely not made and used since they just wouldn't be practical.

A "hand cannon" or man portable firearm at GW level of technology would have more downtime than bows and less accuracy to boot. Not to mention wands/staves provide decent hit power in a package lighter and far more effecient than any gun they could make.

but now the question begs, why aren't there "siege wands" or what have you?
idk, my theory; as weapon size increases physical firearms gain some edge over their magic counterparts, hence the large cannons on siege turtles.

hehe this is a fun warped reality this thread has, it lives in riverside has the message of sardelac and is now getting treated like it's in druid's
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48   #170
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Guns in GW: no, they just couldn't be balanced.

GW2: Since mechanics are still in development, they probably could be integrated somehow.

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You'r Funny, Modern Time have no Teleporting Devices, nor those other Self-Working Structures.
We also don't have magic in "Modern Time" but you don't see that stopping the people in Guild Wars from having it.
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17   #171
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lol that would be really fair

person 1: sword
Person 2: rifle

who gonna win??
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20   #172
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Yeh there should be guns such as M4A1, Ak47 and other small hand guns so people can "pop a cap in yo ass".

Don't forget light sabres, we need light sabres !
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #173
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lol that would be really fair

person 1: sword
Person 2: rifle

who gonna win??
Well that depends, if the person is crap marksman and the other guy happens to be a champion at throwing swords. Person 1 will win.
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58   #174
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lol that would be really fair

person 1: sword
Person 2: rifle

who gonna win??

if mr rifle has 3 mastery then mr sword with 15 wins.

if mr rifle cant hit a moving target, mr sword wins.

if you people knew anything about fantasy games, you'd realize how retarded you all look saying matchlocks and muskets wouldnt work in a MMO. offended? think how offended i am trying to get you all to realize its a fantasy game.

person 1 runs up to person 2, person 2 uses DECAPITATE (meaning you now have NO HEAD), person 1 not only survives, but gets healed to full hp, and the laughs at the guy who used decapitate.

see a trend? tons of people survive gunshots from NEW AGE weapons, lets alone old ass muskets and rifles. you people need to get you heads out of the sand.

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Old Feb 18, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #175
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Let's not forget to include

The Holy Handgrenade of Antioch!
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08   #176
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History does repeat itself:

I'll pass on the rayguns, though. Please.
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18   #177
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Let's not forget to include

The Holy Handgrenade of Antioch!
They could just make it a skill.
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Old Feb 18, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #178
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History does repeat itself:
I'll pass on the rayguns, though. Please.
GW has many things inspired from D&D content... and that's not a raygun, it looks more like a phaser.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54   #179
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Technology is the Science of Craft.
Either way Magically powered is same as Eletrically powered^^.
It is the Structure and Craft what counts it as a "Technology".
Let's stop talking bout GOLEMs, now to the topic.

Guns don't seem to destroy the game.
You people keep on saying it would destroy Guild Wars, why?
Lore?, well it is Tyria not Earth, again.
Even so, It is totally possible for GW to have guns, even in the current time not just GW2.

And why compare Fireballs with Guns, might aswel compare it with Flaming Swords or Flaming Arrows?

Ever thought of that?

Bows would still be in GW, so it won't Destroy the Game.
Bows are faster and more versatile than Guns.
While guns could deal more damage.
Check my other post about ballancing Guns with Bows.

A Warrior is armor could just deflect the bullets, if you don't think so "hey, it's fiction!".
People could cut armor with just there fists in fiction, so why not bullets deflecting?

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Old Feb 22, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08   #180
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Technology is the Science of Craft.
Either way Magically powered is same as Eletrically powered^^.
It is the Structure and Craft what counts it as a "Technology".
Let's stop talking bout GOLEMs, now to the topic.

Guns don't seem to destroy the game.
You people keep on saying it would destroy Guild Wars, why?
Lore?, well it is Tyria not Earth, again.
Even so, It is totally possible for GW to have guns, even in the current time not just GW2.

And why compare Fireballs with Guns, might aswel compare it with Flaming Swords or Flaming Arrows?

Ever thought of that?

Bows would still be in GW, so it won't Destroy the Game.
Bows are faster and more versatile than Guns.
While guns could deal more damage.
Check my other post about ballancing Guns with Bows.

A Warrior is armor could just deflect the bullets, if you don't think so "hey, it's fiction!".
People could cut armor with just there fists in fiction, so why not bullets deflecting?
Then how about giant robots and UFOs, if you don't think so "hey, it's fiction! we could let the necromancers create robots and UFOs instead of minions!"

No, the change is simple too drastic for a game like this. Why? Because:
1) the theme is more or less the beginning of Middle Ages, so guns doesn't exist then.
2) It will take who knows how long for people to get used to this change, as it affects a whole 2 classes[warriors and rangers and on that note, literally ALL of the classes, it isn't too difficult to learn how to insert a bullet and shoot it out now is it?].
3) There will be a need of skill change. A set of GUN skills must be added unless you make the guns shoot 60s and 90s without using a skill, which defeats the purpose of skills in GW.
4) From what you're saying you sound like you want to replace bows by guns. What's the point? your precious warrior MAY look a tiny bit nicer carrying a mini nuke launcher(hey! it's fiction!) than a bow but, the reward(if there is any) is simply not worth the hassle.


And why are you SO keen in getting guns into GW? If you're so addicted to guns, play games like Halo 3, Ghost Recon, Battlefield.... etc. And if you're too addicted to GW to do that, simple solution, get drunk and delete GW permanently and smash all the GW installation cds you have (so you can't just reinstall it back on). And when you get somber, all there is left is one quick swing of anger and then you're right on to Halo 3, seeing your precious guns![Am I just......great? You know, been SO helpful to you and everything]
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